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OCSD
Obfuscation –When
PRA stands for Purely Recycled Answers
Posted
by CotoBlogzz 2/24/2009 7:00 PM
What
PRA is Supposed to Be:
Government
code 6250 stipulates that, the Legislature, mindful
of the right of individuals to privacy, finds and
declares that access to information concerning the
conduct of the people’s business is a fundamental
and necessary right of every person in this state. I
defines “writing” as meaning any
handwriting, typewriting, printing, photostating,
photographing, photocopying, transmitting by
electronic mail or facsimile, and every other means
of recording upon any tangible thing any form of
communication or representation, including letters,
words, pictures, sounds, or symbols, or combinations
thereof, and any record thereby created, regardless
of the manner in which the record has been stored
OCSD
PRA – An Illustration
This
particular illustration starts with a supposedly
lost security file in Laguna Woods Village, reported
as a burglary in case 08-232487.
According to press
accounts, an OCSD investigator had been in contact
with Security Manager Eugene Hart, prior to the
filing of the formal OCSD report - The file
was discovered missing sometime in November.
Subsequently, ten residents I refer to as the Village-Ten
People were selected to
receive an “attorney-letter” in connection
with the missing file.
A
resident familiar with the matter tells us that “Last
we heard was that the file had been located, found
as it were. Implied is that it had been
misplaced”. I have sent numerous
requests for comment to Wendy Bucknum, government
and public affairs manager for Laguna Woods Village.
She has not responded.
Following up on the
matter, I called OCSD’s spokersperson Jim
Amormino. He was kind enough to refer me
to the Lieutenant in charge. Since the
Lt. was not available, the
Sergeant
on duty took the call. She then referred
me to the Investigator who abruptly cut me off.
I then call the Sgt. who acknowledged and condoned
the Investigator’s actions as standard operating
procedure.
I
then filed a California
Public Records Act request for inquiries to the
Orange County Sheriff
Department
on alleged burglary of files documented in the case
08-232487 filed with the OCSD on December 2, 2008.
I received a response from the OCSD/SSD dated
February 17, 2009 stating that “there are no
documents responsive to this request.”
To
make sure I was getting accurate information, I
asked the OCSD/SSD representative to confirm the
veracity of the information, given that various
VillageTen People had gone to the trouble and
expense of hiring attorneys and had inquired about
the status of the case stating:
I
informed the representative that in addition to
copies of emails sent to the Lt directly, on the
subject, there have been un-answered telephone
calls - such as the one below:
“I too
called the Sheriff’s office several times. Each
time I received information to call another person
at another number. Finally, the last call had a
voice response and no one returned my telephone
call. I don’t think the OCSD is interested, they
have more important cases and its possible they think
this is an HOA dispute between management and HOA?
The
response from the OCSD/SSD was” I
checked again with the Lt. and he advised that
there are no documents responsive to your request”
I
wanted to make sure I understood how the OCSD was
interpreting the California Public Records
Act and asked to see if the OCSD could clarify
as to how residents should go about inquiring about
this case so the inquiries would fall under the PRA
act, given that emails were sent directly to
the lieutenant such as the following excerpt:
“I
am one of the 10 residents identified to the OCSD as
a suspect in the supposed burglary. My
questions for Bill Griffin are: Has the case been
closed? If so, has the OCSD concluded that
this was a real burglary or what many residents
think it is – a false report. If it is still
open, what is the current state of progress?
As they did in this case, does the OCSD
routinely assign an investigator to look into issues
prior to filing a formal report? If not, why
was it done in this case? Finally, if it does,
what is the status of the resident intimidation
reported to Sheriff Hutchens.
Obviously,
I want the case closed out and sealed. I
consider this a smear by PCM to cover their own
gross negligence. They lost custody of the
files and improperly gave them to a
resident. Then they filed this false report to
cover their actions. So, it concerns me as long
as this case remains open and has the names of
residents connected to it”
The
response from the OCSD representative? “Anyone
who has questions about this case should contact
the Investigator:
My
response? “I have and he refused to talk to
me. So did the Sgt.” and the Lt. by
the way.
Conclusions:
OCSD PRA stands for Purely
Recycled Answers
Now
how is this for running around in circles?
Is this a good illustration of the OCSD Obfuscation?
How
good is Government code 6250 if a department can
simply deny or simply ignore?
How
is it possible for the OCSD to assign and
investigator prior to the filing of a formal
complaint, yet ignore questions from residents
directly and apparently improperly implicated in a
reported burglary, then refuse to talk to the press?
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The OCSD routinely asserts lame reasons to withhold
information which should be routinely provided to
citizens. The California Public Records Act is very
clear, comprehensive, sweeping in scope and easy to
understand. Public officials should be exposed and
held accountable for unlawfully withholding
information which must be released upon demand.
CotoBlogzz
My question is why?
Is it overwork? Is it laziness as indicated by prior
grand jury findings?
Is it arrogance? Is it incompetence? Is it corruption?
Conrad
Grundke
As one of the "Village-Ten" people, this is an
illustration of how POWER corrupts. PCM implied that
one or more of the ten people addressed in their
"attorney letter" was involved in the
illegal removal of information from the desk of one of
the PCM employees. The fact that a PCM employee later
found the documents in question in the PCM office
area, imparts no remorse for the obvious defamation of
character of the "Village-Ten." That PCM
would not immediately publicly acknowledge the error
in their accusation, is a measure of their moral
character. How does this immoral action come about?
POWER! PCM thinks that their position places them
above reproach and is a common method of operation in
their interaction with the Boards who, supposedly, are
their bosses.
The Sheriff's department is also showing that their
POWER places them above any moral requirement and
gives those who they are supposed to protect, little
feeling of confidence in the new sheriff that's in
town.
CotoBlogzz
Interesting that you bring up trust in the new Sheriff.
Sheriff Hutchens has been regularly addressing the
issue of accountability, begging the question: How is
it that the department is held accountable? Recently
top command ridiculed those they were sworn to serve
and protect. All they got was a slap on the wrist. Is
this what the Sheriff means when she says she is
holding people accountable for their actions?
When thee county buys products and or services, they
usually have at least a SOW (Statement of Work) and
some sort of criteria to make sure the supplier
complies with the SOW, including penalties for
non-compliance. In the case of law enforcement
contracts between the county and contracted cities,
such as the City of Laguna Woods, there is no SOW and
no compliance or accountability clause. The agreement
instead is basically a menu with body count and
prices. Apparently compliance is left to the state,
pursuant to government code section 8546.7 - the stats
has NOT DONE ANY audits on the cities we have looked
at. As Jim Mora might say, accountability? What
accountability? Accountability?
SHERMAN
TANK
Can someone please explain to me WHAT "morality"
has to do with the legal requirement to investigate a
theft or burglary? My contention is simple. The owners
at LW have had grave difficulty in viewing books and
records and obtaining other items that they are
entitled to by law. Well! If the residents are having
sooooooo much trouble obtaining what they are
"entitled to" then how the hell can they
possibly get into or break into that PCM bat-cave that
is shut tighter than a rat's a** to steal anything?
Its utter nonsense. Furthermore, PCM has a legal duty
to oversee its client's files, books, and records,
most especially if there is any credit card
information in there. Just read the California
Corporations Code, Business and Professions Code, and
other statutes that make that duty very clear. Did PCM
file a police report? Did they claim off their
insurance for the so-called "loss?" There is
a penalty for filing a false police report, especially
when coincidentally the files that were uh, um, errr,
"missing" would possibly be subject to a
subpoena at some point. A little itty bitty
destruction of evidence maybe? Claiming a theft, as
they have likely perfected that artform of
scapegoating, frankly, should put a few people behind
bars. Are you listening Sheriff? Sheriff, you might
want to take a closer look at this just in case this
turns out to one of those big test issues that dogs
your career for a mighty long time. Why don't the
residents of LW pool their resources and hire a
top-of-line private investigator. Those guys don't
pull any punches and their testimony holds up in
court. If there is corruption, which it certainly
smells like some rotten fish are present, these
investigators sniff it out. Sometimes ya gotta do what
ya gotta do and since the Sheriff isn't up to
protecting its citizens, then dammmit, the citizens
will have to protect themselves.
SHERMAN
TANK
P.S. to PCM: Nice try at a dry run...practicing for the big
event. Hey, residents, watch out.
CotoBlogzz
Sherm:
You have a way to cut through the neoplasm and bring
clarity to an otherwise obfuscated situation: Indeed,
with all the Shut Up rules, rules for residents to
stay away from certain common areas, and even the
property management company telling the board of
directors what to do and what not to do, it makes you
wonder why ten residents would be singled out as
probable culprits in this case - then keep treat them
like mushrooms.
Sherm: "Morality" is what's left when the law
cannot resolve an issue. It has been disintegrating
over the past 50 years and is the main reason for many
of our current economic issues. Do you really think
that B. Maddoff wasn't aware of what he was doing?
Power can allow one to ignore the cries for help with
the response, "if you don't like what I'm doing,
go ahead and sue me!" A common approach to a
situation when those in power know that they have done
wrong and can turn to the responsible legal entities
knowing that they too are relying on their power to
ignore determining Right from Wrong.
CotoBlogzz
Mr. Grundke:
Adding to your point - in the cases I am covering,
there is no question that a good number of the
individuals involved know right from wrong - yet, for
whatever reason, choose to place obstacle after
obstacle, is if to say, "I will do what I like,
when I like it, how I choose to do it, and there is
nothing you can do about it".
Which leads me back to my original question: Why?
Is it overwork? Is it laziness as indicated by prior
grand jury findings?
Is ti management priorities?
Is it arrogance? Is it incompetence? Is it corruption?
Your premise that power may have a bearing is indeed
plausible.
Your premise that power may have a bearing is indeed
plausible.
SHERMAN TANK
Mr. Grundke, the "honor system" is no more. So if
possible, let's stick with the hand we've been dealt
in the present tense. Irrespective of whether or not
someone sues or does not sue or threatens or not
threatens, the LW residents many of them keep using
the excuse that they are scared; cowering? frightened?
who knows, but they are chickens, they've been doing
alot of talk talk talk, the residents voice was
supposed to be a Big deal and take care of the stuff
the rest of us would not be able to do on our own, but
now, the residents voice has turned into another type
of board that has been paralyzed by its own people. We
really expected the Voice to be a force to be reckoned
with, to take the ball and really run hard. But that
didn't happen. For instance, how did Milt Johns EVER
get a seat on a board of directors. He doesn't own
property there? How did PCM be able to get away with
all the stuff that it has been getting away with? The
boards just cave in, and the reason they get away with
it is because the owners are not united in the sense
that they are able to shout and be heard and make a
difference. We don't need any more ripples, we need a
tidal wave.
Conrad Grundke
UNAWARENESS, Sherm!
Up until a few years ago, the only information that
was available was as presented in The Globe, OC
Register, or LA Times and TV 6 . Voila! Residents
Voice! It was not formed to become another
"Board." It has no authority or power. Its
purpose was to make the owners aware of how the
Mutuals are being run. We are "The Other Side of
the Story." Our power comes from those Owners who
object to the way our Mutuals are being run. The onus
is on people like you who recognize that there is a
problem.
Yes! It will take a TIDAL WAVE! The owners have to
recognize how much of their money has been spent
without any accountability and perhaps that will
induce them to "shout and be heard." We
Exposed the Credit Card and Employee Reimbursement
Expenses, and Incentive Plan, the doubling of the
Management Fee, and Plans to build a 3 story Clubhouse
#2, are just a small part of the knowledge that we
made public. Our website www.rvoice.org
was created to document all of the information and is
available to anyone with internet access so you too
can take the information and question your Board
member on what they are doing.
Conrad Grundke
EGO and "The Peter's Priciple!" CotoBlogzz
Laziness, Overwork, Incompetence, Arrogance,
Corruption. Priorities! All can be used to excuse
Board actions. Ego is my first choice. Many Directors
get on the board for the limelight. Then comes
reality! They are not capable of managing a $95m
corporation and default to the Managing Agent. This is
well and good and would work if he was a
"Benevolent Dictator (the best form of governence)."
Unfortunately, our Managing Agents FIRST PRIORITY is
his boss, PCM, which he readily acknowledges. That
places a non-profit management in the hands of a
for-profit corporation. This spells disaster and
results in a Managing Agent with NO OVERSIGHT! Not the
position an HOA should place themselves in.
CotoBlogzz
While the question of how PCM got to yield so much power in
the community is a fair question, I see this in most
of the HOA/CIDs, as the property management company is
usually either chartered with or
"volunteers" to maintain the community's
"memory" - in this case,it appears the
property management company has taken extraordinary
steps to legislate what residents can or cannot do -
the method of choice has been board intimidation.
On the other hand, we agree with Mr. Grundke - the
established media has not only been criticized for
leasing space directly from the management company,
but also filtering the information - the Residents
Voice has consistently presented alternative views -
there is no question that the tidal wave is either
about to strike or is building momentum.
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