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August 2008 ISSUE We do not make jokes, we simply watch the LA Times, the Orange County Register and CID/HOA board of directors and report the facts! |
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Trouble in Paradise - Laguna Woods Village July
27,
2008 Candidates
vying for one of three slots in the Laguna
Woods City Council, to be filled in the general
election scheduled for November 4, 2008, were to speak
before the Save
Open Spaces (SOS) meeting earlier today:
Incumbents Brenda Ross and Milton Robbins
(former GRF president), Marilynn Sartino, Arlene
Sontag, Ronald Beldner, Jim Kane, , Robert Tucker.
Martin Rhodes was a no-show and Margo Bouer, and Mark
Stein were not slated to appear.
COMMENTS What the heck's going on at Leisure World, oh I'm sorry, they changed their name how many times? What's their name this week? Is it Laguna Woods? They don't even know who they are! Now they have a "SHUT UP" Rule? What does that tell you about a so-called "retirement" community? Did I say "Community?" Imagine that. Where's the "leisure" in a place like that? It's turned into a cement jungle filled with higher and higher and thicker and thicker density building and construction. Worse yet, my relatives who live there told me that a person doesn't even have to own property there to sit on their board of directors? Would you buy property there? Would any of us risk our personal assets at the hands of those people? How anyone can call that a "retirement" community boggles the mind. This incompetence has been going on for how long now?- S. Tank Calm down. My parents live in Laguna Woods. They *love* it. They are having the time of their lives. Laguna Woods does have a lot of great community, for those with the attitude (and social skills) to share it. As for the name change: that was forced on them. The son-in-law of the original developer (Cortese, I believe) owns the rights to the "Leisure World" name, and he kept hiking the fee to use the name. Eventually it just became cheaper to reprint all the stationary and change to a different LW. Also, by incorporating as a new city, Laguna Woods has been getting "start-up" funds from the state. A clever move over all. Now, there are some real transparency problems with PCM and GRF. But the point is that the community of LW is cohesive enough to be aware of the problem and do something about it (besides moaning like a teenage in a blog post). Tyler Tyler: You bring up an interesting point – Dr. Pareto would seem to indicate that a majority of common interest development residents (CID) either do not know, or do not care how the community is managed, unless they are directly wronged. When local governing bodies wrong CID residents, there are not many options for redress of grievances. The California Attorney General, the Real Estate Commissioner and the California Bar Association will usually point to litigation as the way forward – makes you wonder why taxpayers are burdened with these bureaucracies? – but that is another story. In most cases, residents are rightly reluctant to pursue litigation – first, because governing bodies use the resident’s own money to defend the governing structure, and then the resident has to use his or her own funds to start the process. Not to mention all the unspeakable governing bodies can get away with, if the case is brought to trial. As usual, there are exceptions to the rule, last week in a case filed in Superior Court of California Riverside, a jury ruled in favor of residents Richard and Leslie Fredericks and returned a verdict of $1.6 million in damages and $400 thousand in punitive damages against Santa Rosa Cove Homeowners Association, for example.- Buzz
Vico Confino’s Revenge “For over eight years, Vico fought with the board and pleaded for action. He made phone calls…He took pictures..He shot videos…He wrote letters…He attended meetings…He complained to the state …He hired lawyers…Twice he offered the recreation committee interest-free loans to fix the pool area…The committee board always said No! No! No!” reads the Dedication the book Villa Appalling, self-described as a “Text for Understanding Common Interest Developments Homeowners Associations and Planned Communities” Not sure that Confino’s Revenge will play out here – on the other hand, we have asked governing board and property management representatives to comment on our stories. We have also forwarded them a number of resident’s letters – mum is the word! - Buzz
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