January 2008 ISSUE

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Rumors, Rumors, Vox Populi Vox Dei – paraphrasing the OCR

Everything Hidden Shall Be Revealed

 

December 21, 2007      

“Village Snopes would be nice to dispel myths that are causing havoc on the mutual boards”, reads an article titled “ Rumors false, and published December 18,2007  by the OCR.  The article asserts that according to Third Mutual president Cynthia Conner, claims that the board is planning on removing director Stanley Feldstein are untrue.  This coming right after Mr. Felstein was “politically assassinated” as president of Third Mutual and replaced by none other than Ms. Conner.

Ms Conner has correctly observed that “ while officers serve at the pleasure of the board, directors are voted on by mutual members”, but this should not be a surprise to anyone familiar with HOA politics, and perhaps one reason why Mr. Felstein’s total political demise was not consummated earlier?  On the other hand, a director can be removed by simple  resolution of the board if that director does not meet basic qualifications.  Paraphrasing President Clinton when he tried to define the word “is”, it all depends what “basic” means.  Or a more recent example from Presidential Candidate Governor Mit Romney, it all depends what “seeing” means – does it mean I need to be there to “see”? Or perhaps Presidential Candidate Senator Barack Obama explaining what he means when he says he does not accept lobbyists' money, arguing that it has a widespread corruptive influence on the political process - apparently meaning he does not take money from lobbyists not planning to vote for him...

Interestingly, the Resident’s Voice commented on Ms Conner’s jab aimed at her critics: “Residents Voice believes that there is/was indeed a plan, and a desire, by the Group of Six to remove Feldstein from the Board. This belief is corroborated by Conners subsequent statement during this Board meeting, that, “Over the past month there has been a lot of discussion about what it takes to remove a director from the board… “  If there was no plan, or desire, to remove Feldstein, then why did the Group of Six spend a month discussing “what it takes to remove a director” from the Board?

Ms Conners lamented that “ there was no place where residents could debunk rumors”.  But of course, she is not correct.  The Laguna Woods Village Discussion Forum (LagBlogzz) has been set up precisely for these purposes.  All are invited to participate in edyfing discourse on the important issues of the community, with a certain level of moderation to eliminate personal attacks – Ms. Conners has been invited to participate, as well as leaders of the Resident's Voice
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Rumors, rumors, rumors, or  Vox Populi Vox Dei? – That is, if people are proclaiming it, it must be so! - for example, a recent rumor was that a secret meeting had been held to remove Mr. Feldstein as president of the board.........

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  ...Such secret meeting was deemed to be merely "rumors", then Mr. Felstein was "politically assassinated". - which was the rumor and which was the truth?

With this in mind,  take  the Truth or Rumor Quiz Below

 

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Fact or Rumor ?

Given this background, is the following truth or rumor?  President FDR led US into World War II. Germany never attacked the US: Japan did.

From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost,

Average =  112,500 per year.

President Truman finished that war and started one in Korea.  North Korea never attacked the US.

From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost,

Average = 18,333 per year.

President John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked the US.  Vietnam turned into a quagmire during President Johnson’s administration

From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost,

Average =   5,800 per year.

President Clinton led US to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked the US  He was offered Osama bin Laden three times by Sudan.  Osama has attacked the US on multiple occasions since.

Over 2,900 lives lost on 9/11.

Since 9/11, the US  has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, battled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

 

 

 

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